See, this is what happens when CDs start to go to a MENS club. Now you are posting about meeting at your house and not at the club. So they come in, scare all the guys looking for men away, and then they end up meeting away from the club anyway. So what happens to the club? Well guys like me stay away because we're not into girls, and the girls end up meeting the guys who are into them at their house. Which means the club doesn't make any money because people stop coming. NOTE to the management and owners of Red's. This is what you get for not staying true to being a MENS club.

I'm sticking up for a place that I used to love. It's a MENS CLUB. So much so, that MEN is in the name. But you girls want to turn it into a GIRLS club.

Wouldn't it be great for a club to say they are a "Gay Men's Club". While everyone is accepted, we specifically structure our bathhouse for GAY MEN who are into other MEN. There is nothing wrong with specializing in that, but the LGBTQ community has gotten together to fight against it. Unfortunately, they don't realize that many gay men are still afraid to come out of the closet, because they don't want to be grouped like that. I take so much crap from people, because I'm a guy who's proud of being a guy and my guy body. If trans people want a place to go, why not open their own specific trans club?

CD's are just ugly guys who can't get laid, so they put on a dress and make up to get attention and get laid. I'm glad I can go in as a guy, with a thick dick, hairy bush and balls and have guys want it. I don't have to be fake.

Sure, I can get along, but if you really want to get along, you would want to get along with everyone, including straight people. You mentioned LGBTQ. That basically includes everyone but straight people. I'm gay, I'm not Lesbian, Bi, Transgendered or Questioning. I understand grouping Lesbian and Gay together, because we are kind of the same (attracted to the same sex). Bi in somewhere inbetween, so I get that, but Transgendered is completely different. Transgendered wants to be the opposite sex. But somehow we group everyone into this LGBTQ club and when someone disagrees with us, we claim that they are the ones not trying to get along. If you want accepted, you need to accept straight people too. Now the real issue here is that Reds is a gay "Mens" club. I am not comfortable getting naked and playing around with someone who is transgendered next to me or watching me. They are completely different from me. I have no problem with transgendered people, but they need to find their own sex clubs. This is a very personal and intimate setting. Having someone different in a setting like this, makes it uncomfortable. Disagree all you want, but I'm not the one that's not accepting and able to get along.

I agree with John Apple. It's almost like regular guys aren't accepted anymore. If I wanted a woman, I would be straight. Trans and gay are completely different. Gay mean you like the same sex. Trans means you want to be the opposite sex. I have nothing against Trans, but certainly do not understand why a "Mens" club would promote women or trans?!

Well... I guess I am no longer accepted here. I'm just a regular guy who is into other guys. Since I'm not trans or a CD or into it, I am not welcome.

To me, gay and trans are two entirely different things. I'm gay, I like being a guy, looking like a guy and acting like a guy. I just happen to also like other guys. A trans person is someone who want's to be the opposite sex, dress, act and look like the opposite sex. It's different. I am not a fan of the entire LGBTQ club. That club represents every person other than straight people. LGBTQ people want accepted by all, yet they completely rule out straight people. To be, my sexual preference isn't a club, but just the way I am. There are gay bars, straight bars, drag bars and probably trans bars. I believe everyone should be accepted, however they should also accept that they cannot walk into a place and change what it is.

Ken, no way am I going until I'm sure women or fake women are not going to be there. I will not be back. I'm gay, not into women or wannabes.

If you guys would rather have a slut like that, rather than a guy like me. Then I'm never coming back to Reds.

You don't like my opinion, so you think I'm rude because of that? Again, this is supposed to be a MENS club. It's in the name. I'm just sticking up for what I believe in. I'm find of a guy want's to dress and act like a girl, but why take an awesome place like Red's and ruin it? There are places for him/her, but if she/he turns Red's into a trans club, it's going to ruin a great thing. I predict that many guys, who will remain quiet, will just not go if they seen women or trans hanging out here. Again, I will not be back until I know that I will not have to see this kind of thing.

How disgusting! You guys must be desperate. If I wanted a woman, I would find a prettier woman that that fake hag. If this continues, Red's needs to change their name from "Mens" club to something else.

I'm not into it Ken! No way. If I wanted a girl, she would be pretty and I would be straight or at least bi. Seeing a guy as a girl turns me off. I went to Red Gym MENs club because I thought it was for MEN. I had great times here, but will not be back if it's going to have trans or women there now. Sorry, it's just not for me.

I'm not going to go back if this is what the place is turning into. That's exactly what I've been saying. And if they owners want it to be a trans club, then they should change the name. I do feel it's a shame. I loved reds, the concept, the layout, how clean they keep it. But if I wanted a woman, I would be straight or bi. I would rather stay home then have some woman wannabe try to touch me or even watch.

The name of this place is "Red Gym Mens Club". So WHY would a woman or a man dressed as a woman go here? To me, it's ruined what the entire concept is. It's a MENs club. It's in the name.

Gay and trans are too different things. Gay guys like me, are into the same sex. A trans person whats to be the opposite sex. It's entirely different and I'm sick of being groups into the same club as someone how is trans. I have nothing against a trans person, but I need a place that will provide me with my interests and something I can relate to.

Thanks Ken. I would be turned off if a girl or trans was there.

What a shame that you guys want this place to turn into a trans-club. I will not be back. I loved Reds before all of this.

I mean no offense, but this sort of thing makes me not want to go to Reds anymore. If I wanted a woman, I would be straight. Again, I don't mean to offend, but it's not worth going if this is turning into a drag or trans club now.

I was there earlier. Very hot time for sure!